Saturday, January 09, 2010

Orthograph #22 - Toll Booths?


9 comments:

James the Thickheaded said...

No. More like we're talkin' 'bout gettin' OUT of New Jersey. Joe Piscapo's take on the Garden State was 'bout right.

bob said...

Orthograph # 20 could easily be relabeled to display the exponentially decreasing usefulness of reading anything whatever about them after the first time you hear of them...My opinion, don't tell a disciple of Fr. Seraphim.

Peter Gardner said...

As one who is a member of ROCOR, and who knows a lot of people who dearly love Fr. Seraphim (who have, collectively, brought up the subject of tollbooths maybe twice in the last three and a half years), I've seen quite a few people on the internet dismiss him, based on his alleged beliefs about tollbooths (most of which bear little resemblance to what he actually seems to have believed.)

bob said...

Peter, Exactly. I have a hunch that he suffers from a small number of vocal disciples and the quieter ones are....Quiet.

Anita said...

Now that you're doing these orthographs you should rename your blog "pithy thoughts." They are the very essence of pith. Thanks for doing the orthographs; I enjoy them very much.

The Hermit said...

Whenever someone tells me about Fr. Seraphim and the tollbooths, the first question I always ask is, "Have you actually read 'The Soul After Death?'" If the answer is "No, but.." I tune out immediately.

What Fr. Seraphim actually said about the toll booths bears little to no resemblance to what his critics say he said about them.

s-p said...

I'm a Seraphim Rose fan, but I don't take everything he or even St. John Chrysostom or St. Gregory of Nyssa or...etc. as infallible. Just because Fr. Seraphim read a lot of books and wrote really long term papers on some topics doesn't make him the last and best word, especially on things that are speculative and pious opinion within the traditions of the Church. My default "position" on such things is "That's interesting...", not "I'm convinced! ...until I'm not by someone else." Last time I looked there's a lot of stuff like this that isn't in any of the baptismal "repeat after me's". :)

The Hermit said...

Of course, I didn't mean to imply that Fr. Seraphim was infallible...I was just saying, 9 times out of 10, people talking about his 'gnosticism' or whatever have not even read the work in question. That's an unfair way of judging someone at any time--but quite a terrible one if what you are accusing them of is the heresy of gnosticism.

s-p said...

Hermit, No worries, I didn't take your comment as a statement of Fr. Seraphim being infallible... and I agree, many people read blogs ABOUT stuff rather than the stuff itself and form their opinions based on other people's opinions, not on the primary source.